Transcribed by blind, Kelly Greenaway. For transcription services please contact Kelly at kgreenaway915@gmail.com .

Video linked here Carl Jung Got UFOs Wrong

This is November 2, 2021, and I’m doing a bit of analysis on Carl Jung’s book called Flying Saucers. I was at a second hand book store on Broadway, and it interested me. I didn’t realize it would cost me eighteen dollars. I was too embarrassed not to buy it, so I got it, so I had to read it, so now that I spent all this money, I’ve got to make a comment on it.

First I’ll start off my thoughts on Carl Jung. Back in 1981, while I was twenty-one years old, and I read his book, Memory Dreams, and Reflections.

And it really set me off on something like a channelling phase. I remember it was March 4, 1981; I got in this higher state of mind. It sort of was on, and off for a few months, so I’ve had the utmost respect for Carl Jung, since then, and I still do. I think he was perhaps the greatest Psychologist of all time. Certainly better than Freud; but I’m disappointed with this book. I’m reading through it; he’s basically trying to dismiss UFOS as visions, as rumours. So I’ll just read parts of this book, but for the record, I’m saying Carl Jung was wrong about UFOS. He got it wrong.

He wrote this in 1958, and he died in 1961. But still then, as he wrote, he knew a lot about it; he had studied this for ten years. Even then, he knew quite a bit about the phenomenon. So I disagree with Carl Jung, so here in chapter one, it’s called UFOs as Rumours. He says,

“Since the things it says reported that UFOs do, not only sound incredible, but seem to fly in the face of all of our basic assumptions about the physical world. It’s very natural that one’s first reaction should be negative. Should be a negative one of outright rejection. Surely we say, it’s nothing but illusions, fantasies, and lies. People who report such stuff, chiefly Airline Pilots, and Ground’s staff, cannot be quite right in the head. What is worse, most of these stories come from America. The land of Superlatives, and Science Fiction. In order to make this natural reaction, we shall begin by considering the UFO reports simply as rumours. I.E. a Psychic products, and shall draw from this all the conclusions that are warranted by an analytical method of procedure. Regarding this, the UFO reports may seem to the skeptical mind to be rather like a story that is told all over the world. The difference from an ordinary rumour, is that it is expressed in a form of visions”.

And he says here,

“I prefer the term Vision to hallucination, because the latter bares the stamp of a pathological concept; whereas, the vision is the phenomenon that is by no means, particular to pathological states. So expressing this in a form of visions, these perhaps owe their existence to them in the first place, is now kept alive by them. I recall this comparatively rare variation in visionary rumour. It’s closely a-kin to the collective visions of say the crusaders during the siege of Jerusalem. The troops have bonds in the first World War. The faithful followers of the Pope at Portugal, etc. Part of collective visions, there is on record cases where one, or more persons sees something that is physically not there; for instance, I was once at a spiritualistic séance, where four out of the five people present saw an object, like a moon floating above the abdomen of the Medium. They showed me, the fifth person present, exactly where it was. It was absolutely incomprehensible to them that I could not, I could see nothing of the sort”.

So jumping ahead a bit he says,

“The first requisite of a visionary rumour, as succinct from an ordinary rumour, for whose dissemination, nothing more is needed than popular curiosity, and sensation mongering, is always an unusual emotion. It’s intensification into a vision, and delusion of the senses, however, spring through a stronger excitation, and therefore, from a deeper source. The signal for the UFO stories was given by the mysterious projectile, seen over Sweden during the last two years of the war; attributed, of course, to the Russians by reports of a foo fires, i.e., lights that accompanied ally bombers over Germany. These were followed by the strange sightings of flying saucers in America. The impossibility of finding an earthly base for the UFOs, you know, explaining their physical peculiarities, soon lead to the conjecture of an extra-terrestrial origin. With this development, the rumour got linked up with the psychology of the great panic that broke out in New jersey just before the second World War, when a radio played, based on the novel by HG Wells about Martians invading the earth, caused a regular stampede with numerous car accidents. The play eventually hit the latent emotion connected with the imminence of war. The motif of an extra-terrestrial invasion was seized upon by the rumour of the UFOs and were interpreted as machines controlled by intelligent beings from space”.

Da da da da.

So, he takes on this whole attitude that they’re all some kind of psychological manifestations. And he goes on, and on, he’s got a chapter about dreams people had of UFOs, and he would do a dream interpretation. So he spent some big, thick chapter on dream interpretations of UFOs, but what about the evidence? What about the data? The physical evidence? Now, I’ll jump ahead to chapter five, I have here,

“UFOs considered in a non-psychological light. States,

“As I said at the beginning, it was a purpose of this essay to treat the UFOs primarily as a psychological phenomenon. There are plenty of reasons for this: this is abundantly clear from the contradictory, and impossible assertions made by the rumour. It’s quite right that they should meet with criticism, skepticism, and open rejection. If anyone should see behind them, nothing more than a phantasm that deranges the minds of men, and engenders rationalistic resistances, you should have nothing but our sympathy. Indeed, since conscious, and unconscious fantasy, and even mendacity in many lives, obviously play an important role in building up the rumour. We could be satisfied with the psychological explanation, and let it rest at that. Unfortunately, however, there are good reasons why the UFOs cannot be disposed of in this simple manner. So far as I know, it remains an established fact supported by numerous observations. The UFOs have not only been seen visually, but have also been picked up on their radar screen, and have left traces on the photographic plate. I base myself here, not only on the comprehensive reports by Ruplet and Keyhoe, which leave no room for doubt in this regard, but also in the fact that the Astrophysicist, Donald Menzel has not succeeded despite all his efforts in offering a satisfying scientific explanation of even one authentic UFO report”.

I should mention some these people. Donald Keyhoe was about the greatest UFO researcher of all time, from the 1950s, and 60s. Donald Menzel was a member of Majestic 12, appointed by President Truman after the crash at Roswell to debunk UFOs. So he was an astronomer, who knew about the reality of UFOs, and his job was to debunk it. So back in this time in 1958 when this was written, Carl Jung didn’t know about Roswell. This wasn’t really known until 1978, so he had no idea about downed crafts, at that time. This is very interesting. So he says,

“It boils down to nothing less than this: that either psychic projections throw back a Radar echo? Or else the appearance of real object affords an opportunity for mythological projections”.

So I’m disappointed. Carl Jung just won’t come out, and say these things are real. Physical objects by aliens from outer space. Jung remarked that even if UFOs are physically real, then the corresponding psychic projections are not actually cause, but are only occasioned by them. Then he continues, “Mythical statements of this kind have always occurred. Whether UFOs exist, or not. These statements depend on the first place on the peculiar nature of the psychic background, the collective unconscious; and for this reason have always been projected in some form. The various times, all sorts of other projections have appeared in the Heavens besides the Saucers. This particular projection, together with its psychological context, the rumour is specific of our age, and highly characteristic of it; the dominating idea of a mediator, and God, who became man, and after having thrust the old polytheistic beliefs into the background is now in its turn on the point of evaporating. Untold millions of so-called Christians have lost their belief in a real, living mediator, while the believers endeavour to make their belief credible to primitive people”.

And he carries on from there.

“For the United States, the impetus for the manifestation of the latent psychic contents was given by the UFO. The only thing we know with tolerable certainty about UFOs, is that they possess a surface, which can be seen by the eye; at the same time, throws back a radar echo. Everything else is so uncertain that it must remain, for the time being, an unproven conjecture, or rumour, until we know more about it. We do not know either, whether they are man, machines, or a species of living creature, which has appeared in our atmosphere from an unknown source, is not likely that they are meteoric phenomenon, because of the behaviour of the UFO zigzagging, and such”.

So, he has a lot of psychological gobbledygook here, and he does discuss the possibility that there are aliens from outer space, but I find his whole book is basically muddying the waters. You see, it’s not that big of a book. It’s 160 pages; but I think it’s a lot of psychological gobbledygook, he’s muddying the waters, he’s confusing people. I think he’s honest, and sincere. I think Carl Jung just didn’t really understand nor admit the reality. He admitted that there are radar returns, so he had to admit, OK, these things are physical objects. But he kind of implies, somehow, they’re projections of our collective unconscious, which would still leave a radar return. So, he quite inconclusive and a bit confused so I disagree with Carl Jung on this.

But I’m still a great fan of his book, Memory Dreams, and Reflections and I like Jungian psychology. He was a great man and I appreciate him. He was just off; he made a mistake about UFOs. So, those are my thoughts about Carl Jung.

Transcribed by blind Kelly Greenaway.

For transcription services please contact Kelly at kgreenaway915@gmail.com .

Afterthought on May 22, 2022.

It occurred to me that there could be a surprise angle to this. What if Carl Jung was approached by the military or government to write that book and make those public statements about UFOs? He was the most respected psychologist in the world. Millions of people listened to him. The government knew full well in 1958 that UFOs were real and that the aliens were here. By that time they had academics under their control to discredit the reality of UFOs. It would make sense to get such a put down of UFOs from Carl Jung, just as they did from the media and other sectors of society who cooperated with the government. I agree with this. As I have stated before, my view has changed and now I agree that humanity can’t handle the truth and they must be introduce to disclosure gradually.

I just don’t know. If you have any idea or evidence about Carl Jung cooperating in this, please let me know.